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Tips On Buying A Used Boat Lift

4/7/2023

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Used Boat Lift
When looking for a used lift, the first and most important step is to get the specifications on your boat.  You can do an internet search using the make and model of your boat/motor, then look for specifications.  How long is the boat, how wide is the boat, how heavy is the boat including motor, gas, batteries and gear.  This will determine the weight capacity and width of lift needed and if you are looking for a canopy how long it needs to be.  Most boat lifts come in widths of 7’, 8’, 9’ and 10’ and weight capacities in 1000 lb. increments.  Especially when buying a used Boat Lift, you should look for a lift that has at least 20% more capacity than your boat when fully loaded and if you are getting a lift with a canopy, it should be at least 1-2 feet longer than your boat including your motor.  ​

Types Of Used Boat Lifts

In the used boat lift market today, the most common types of boat lifts are vertical or cantilever.  Cantilever lifts pivot out and down while vertical lifts raise straight up and down.  Vertical lifts have become more common in the marketplace as they are more flexible in that they can operate in shallower water and have more lift height, giving you more flexibility when water levels change.  If you are in a shallow water lake the best choice for you is a vertical, if you are in a lake that has deeper water, 2-5 feet and the water does not fluctuate much, a cantilever lift may also work for you.  If you are in deep water 5’ or deeper, you will want to make sure the lift has long enough legs to accommodate or find the cost of longer lift legs. ​
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Where To Find Used Boat Lifts

After determining what size and kind of boat lift you need the most efficient way to begin your search is on the internet.  You will want to find a lift close to your lake place as they can be difficult and or expensive to transport over the road.  The best place to start looking for a used boat lift is at Dock and Lift Dealers near your lake place, starting with their web site to see if they have a lift that looks like it may meet your needs. For instance, you can search through the available used docks and lifts on the Lake Area Docks & Lifts website on the Used Equipment page. There are a few advantages to purchasing a used lift from a dealer. First, most reputable dock and lift dealers will back up what they sell to you, if the lift has some issue, you did not uncover, they typically will be able to help in the repair.  They can also move the lift to your lake and install it {keep in mind if the lift is 10’ wide or over you should have an oversize permit.  You can also find out what used lifts are available in the weight and the size you need, and what price used lifts are selling for in your area.  Other places to look would be sites like Craigs List, Facebook Marketplace, and any other site that provides local listings. ​

Inspecting Used Boat Lifts Before Purchasing

Carefully inspect the used boat lift, raise it up and down, check to be sure the winch runs well, and the cables are in good shape.  Check the framework of the lift to make sure welds are in good shape and it is sturdy.  Bring a tape measure to be sure the inside width is at least one foot wider than your boat and if there is a canopy it is 1-2 feet longer than your boat.  Other things to look far include making sure the nuts and bolts on the lift still turn, and that the lift legs can be adjusted.  If the lift does have a canopy cover, what shape is it in, and what would be the approximate cost to replace the cover be.  Does the boat lift have a motor, if so, is it battery powered or plug in does the motor work, is it a type of motor still being sold in case it needs service.   ​
Used ShoreMaster Whisper Winch
Used Dutton Lainson Boat Lift Winch
Used Boat Lift Cantilever Pullet
Used Vertical Lift Pulley and cable

Transporting Used Boat Lifts

Boat Lift Transportation
Transporting Boat Lifts, Lift Installation
Beach King Boat Lift Zebra Mussels, 21 day quarantine
Transportation of the lift must be taken into consideration; how will you get the lift to the trailer and how will you get the lift to the lake shore.  The lift will need to fit through both yards (both the sellers and the purchasers) keeping in mind you may have a long canopy that needs to make it through trees and around sprinklers and septic systems.  If the outside width is over 10’ you should have an oversize permit.  ​
One final thing to consider in Minnesota is that the lift has to have been out of the water for at least 21 days before installing in a new body of water.  If you cannot transport and install the lift yourself, some dock installers offer it as a service, at an additional charge. ​
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Tips For Buying A Used Dock System

4/3/2023

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When buying a used dock, the first thing you need to ask yourself is how we are going to use this dock.  Is it just to get out to my boat, are you adding a boat and if so, do you need a slip, will the family be hanging out on the dock, do I need to get out to my favorite fishing hole.   Then you need to decide how long of a dock you need, the best place to start is do you have an existing dock.  If not check how long your neighbor's dock is, talk to them and ask what they like about their dock and what they would change if they could?  Check out our blog about sectional dock vs. Wheel-in.
Once you decide on dock length and layout you will need to determine a budget.  New docks depending on quality and decking run from anywhere to $130 to $240 a linear foot.  A used dock is typically half the cost of new.  So, figure between $65 and $120 a foot for a good used dock.  For example, you need 100 feet of dock you should budget at least $9500{Don’t forget if you want a platform that would also need to be included in the length estimate}.   
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You now know about how much dock you need and an approximate budget, if your lake place is near a dock dealer this is a good time to visit and get a new dock price on what you hope to find used.  This will give you a great starting point, and if time is an issue, you may need to consider going new.  It can also help you determine if anything needs to be replaced or added on the used dock how much it will cost.  Then see what is available used.  See what their prices are like, check and see if they have any coming in on trade.  The nice thing about purchasing from a dealer is they will typically back up their sales and install and deliver, docks can be hard to move.   

​Another place to check is with the neighbors, where did they get their dock, is anybody selling their home nearby and might want to sell the dock separate from the house. Craig's list or Facebook marketplace are also good places to look. 
When you find a dock you like, inspect closely the structure, are the welds holding up? or are they cracking.  This can be best seen where the docks connect together.  Are the dock legs long enough for your needs, do the adjustment still work? If not keep in mind you may have to purchase additional leg material, screw legs or bolts.  Can the dock be reconfigured to meet your needs.  The next item to look at closely is the decking, deck panels are the most expensive component of a dock.  If it has wood decking you will typically have to replace the wood in the near term, are you willing to do that and has it been factored into the price.  If it has a plastic decking or aluminum deck what condition is that in?  If not, how much will it cost to replace the decking? If the decking needs to be replaced soon you will likely be better off buying new.   ​
Once you have selected a dock you need to figure out how to get it to your lake place.  The best way to haul a dock is to separate all the sections and remove the legs.  The dock can then be placed flat on a trailer, transported, and hauled down to your lakeshore.  You will need a trailer hopefully at least 5 feet longer than your longest section, that way you can stack the decking on the front end of the trailer.  
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If you are not able to transport the dock you may want to contact a dock installer and contract for them to move the dock keep in mind that if you purchase a used dock in Minnesota it must have been either decontaminated or out of the water for at least 21 days. 

You can learn more about the rules and regulations of decontaminating your waterfront equipment at the MN DNR website:
https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/invasives/shoreland_owners.html​
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Tools For Predicting Lake Ice Out On Minnesota Lakes

3/31/2023

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Want Some Help Predicting Ice Out Dates on MN Lakes?

This is the time of year when waterfront property owners in Minnesota are scrambling to predict the ice out dates for their favorite lakes in Minnesota. After the brutal assault of biting wind, piling snow, slick ice, sub-arctic temperatures, and near constant shoveling have bestowed upon Minnesotans over the course of an average winter, many of us begin to turn our daydreams to the gifts of warmer temperatures and open water that spring and summer deliver.

Most Minnesotans go with their gut instinct or random guesses based mostly on today's weather forecast to predict that magical date when the ice will come off of their favorite lake. Still, there are others who prefer a more scientific method.  Below are a couple of tools that can help you more accurately predict the ice off date on Your favorite Minnesota lake.

​Minnesota Lake Ice-In and Ice-Out Widget

We recently came across an article by John A. Downing, Director at Minnesota Sea Grant, and Prof. Large Lakes Observatory that lists a tool that he created to help predict ice out on Minnesota lakes called the Minnesota Lake Ice-In and Ice-Out widget   .

Getting good at predicting the timing of Minnesota lake ice-out times has broad and far reaching implications. Obviously waterfront property owners are naturally curious, and sometimes downright anxious to know when the ice will come off of the lake so they can begin doing all of their fun summer lake activities as early as possible. For starters putting the dock or boat lift into the lake, and getting the boat or pontoon into the water is right near the top of most Minnesota lake cabin owners' priority lists, along with opening up the cabin, getting the water turned on (for those who aren't at the lake full time / year-round) etc. Being able to check many of these activities off of the to-do list usually requires the ice being off of the lake.  When you consider that you really have around 12 warm summer weeks to enjoy open water during a typical Minnesota summer, the hope is almost always that the ice will come off the lake early, thereby increasing the length of your time on the water.

According to the article, the average date range for Ice Off in Northern Minnesota is between March 25, and May 15th. That's a span of seven weeks!! Imagine if you had seven additional weeks to get ready for, and enjoy your time at the lake.  

There is a broader economic impact for businesses that rely on ice-off on Minnesota lakes as well. Resorts, cabins, boat and watersports rental locations, lake area towns that rely heavily on summer tourism, not to mention waterfront equipment providers like Lake Area Docks & Lifts are all dependent in some way or another of the timing of the ice-out on area lakes. 
This Webinar Recording features John A. Downing, creator of the Minnesota Lake Ice-In and Ice-Out Widget and describes why he created the widget, and some of the data and information that goes into creating the ice-out predictions.
You Can also download the MN Ice-Out Webinar Slide Deck by following the link.

Minnesota DNR Ice Out Dates Map

MN DNR Lake Ice Out Map
In addition to the Minnesota Ice-Out Widget created by John A. Downing, the Minnesota DNR has an excellent tool that provides historical data on lake ice out dates for select lakes in Minnesota including the Ice out date for a selected year, the median ice out date based on available data, the earliest ice out date, the latest ice out date, and the period of record. This information is all collected by the MN DNR and citizen volunteer lake ice observers.

​It's an incredibly handy tool to help you plan for and prepare for ice out on your favorite Minnesota lake. You can get a good idea of the ice out on your particular lake, even if the data does not exist for it, by analyzing the information available from a lake that is near yours.

You can check out the Minnesota Ice Out Dates Map and all of the related information by heading to the MN DNR website. 

What To Do With The MN Lake Ice Out Data?

Now that you are equipped with the tools and data to help you plan for lake ice-off on your favorite Minnesota lake, what can you do with this information? Well for starters you can make sure that you are ready for that golden moment when the ice comes off of your lake by making plans to be at the cabin to get your waterfront equipment ready for install, make sure the HVAC system is ready for the spring and summer months, perhaps turn on the water and make sure everything else is in order.

You can also take this data and possibly win some bets with your neighbors at the lake. Doesn't everybody love to guess the ice off date on their lake? To be fair, you might want to let them know that you are now basing your guess more on scientific data, rather than just gut instinct and a quick read of the Farmers Almanac, because good neighbors are hard to come by, and it's always best to keep them on your good side, right?

Late Ice Out Means You Still Have Time To Get Your New Dock or Lift Installed!​

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If you are still in the market for a new dock or lift, Lake Area Docks & Lifts can help you out. A late ice out for the 2023 season might be a blessing in disguise for you. If you have been meaning to shop around for a new dock or lift, but just haven't been able to find the time, stop in or give us a call, there is still time to get your waterfront equipment ordered, and a late ice means it could be a few weeks before it gets installed anyway. Just don't wait too long, or you risk missing an important, and valuable part of those 12 short weeks of summer in Minnesota. 
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